MOHAWK - Discovering the Valley of the Crystals Copyright 2001April to December to 2001 - Readers Comments
Note: Dates are in Reverse OrderAs of December 12, 2001
- The latest article is another unique piece of the puzzle that is your book on the Mohawk River. Maybe you should do two books on the river. One about the river during the canal open season and one during the canal closed season. There really are two different faces to the river! DJ
- You amaze me. I don't know how you do it. You come up with something new constantly. Perhaps it is your enthusiasm for the subject and love of life. Thank you for your terrific example and keep up the excellent reading. LP
- Who are you? How did you get my email address? BD
- My website explains who I am. I don't know how I got your email address. Perhaps a friend sent it to me because they thought you might be interested in the Mohawk Valley. In any case, I'll delete it from my mailing list if you want.
- Just read the update on Fort Klock. Be careful about going on railroad property-CSX and most other RRs are taking a hardnosed attitude towards anyone trespassing for any reason. The trespassing issue is a hot topic among rail fans. Keep up the excellent coverage and be careful. BK
- Thanks for the heads up. I don't make a habit of trespassing on private property if there is any indication that visitors are not wanted.
As of November 29. 2001
- Great! I am enjoying the new look as I recover from my surgery. Makes my day a little brighter, and helps make up for the deer season I'm missing. LA
- I checked out the New Look Book last night. Wow! What a difference! I think you are a very accomplished webmaster. DJ
- Hoo sez you're not an accomplished website maven? Looks pretty damn impressive to moi! Info up the old whaazoo - and easy to find, also. DH
- I like the new look. Very organized and helpful. Keep up the good work. LP
- If one ever takes the Internet for granted, it will never be me because a simple search brought me to your web site. Among the many links presented by my search was one called WorthAVisit, and I've spent the past 90 minutes reading your historical presentation of the wonderful Mohawk Valley. I was born and raised in Schenectady as was my father. My mother was born and raised in Utica. I remember being a little girl in the back seat of the car, along with two older sisters, driving Route 5S west to Utica to visit my maternal grandparents. I remember when the Thruway was opened and the ride west was quicker but not quite as nice for me. These early rides through the valley, next to the river, in all seasons, gave me a love of the Mohawk Valley. I am thrilled each time I read about it. I am thrilled each time I drive through it. I am thrilled when I learn something new about it. Thank you for sharing your research, pictures and writings. I can't wait until Spring to do some exploring myself! MS
- I like the new format, it makes a lot easier to find info on the topics of special interest. VF
- I like the reorganized Big Book. Very understandable. BN
- I eagerly await the completion of your book, so I can purchase a copy and present it to my brother-in-law, who is an avid outdoors person and a very longtime resident of Herkimer. He is 93 y.o.a. and still very active. You are doing an excellent job, painting an oral picture of the Mohawk Valley and surrounding area. Keep up the good work, it is a joy to get your weekly segments. I hope this finds you hale and healthy, the later being of the most importance. MS, Fredericksburg, VA
- Just finished ready the latest Oriskany episode. Excellent. BTW, was Denny calling turkeys while he was "yelping" to you? BM
- Another good chapter. Is the entire creek (Oriskany) quality trout water? In other words, can you reasonably expect to catch trout in Coleman's MIlls and Oriskany? SR
- Liked seeing T-Bear. Did you ever get the shoelace back? Ten trout in 10 casts is a damn good day to me. You've been spoiled. How many did you expect on one hook? From your letters, you certainly have accumulated a following through your website & regular updates. Perhaps you could go "on the road" helping aspiring writers? AB
- We do enjoy our travels on the Internet with you. Happy Thanksgiving to you too! NK
- I've read the latest entry and found it captivating, as always. The running commentary on sights, terrain, flora, fins, feathers and fauna is most enjoyable. Happy Thanksgiving to You and the Family! AM
- We took the kids to the (Trenton) falls. I hadn't been there in about 25 years, and it reminded me why we went up there every chance we could in the summer. I used your (Kuyahoora) book and tried to make it a fun lesson for the kids. I had forgotten how many fossils were there. I've been keeping an eye on the new book. GH
As of November 18, 2001
- Really got into your website today. Good info. I'm a descendent of all kinds of Mohawk Valley Palatine (Feeter/Timmerman/Snell/Bellinger/Petrie...) The 250th anniversary of our Feeter families arrival to America/Mohawk Valley (Stone Arabia) is coming up. I'm organizing a family tour; would love to find a knowledgable guide to walk us thru one or maybe two days of retracing our family's historical experiences --from our affiliation w/ Sir Johnston up to about the Civil War era when my direct Feeter line moved down to Cortland Co. We are shooting for the first week of Aug., 2002. CF
- I did a little checking and as suspected, your adventure (Cohoes Falls) was doomed to failure due to the following notice on the NYS Canal site. (The New York State Canal Corporation would like to remind all boaters that the 2001 Navigation Season along the NYS Canal System ends on Sunday, November 4 at 5 p.m.) DJ
As of November 13, 2001
- When I was in college ('65-'69)at SUNY Albany, we would often wind up a date or night out with the guys by going out for breakfast. In Cohoes there was a diner called Coca's (not there anymore) that served three eggs and toast for 39 cents. I used to get a dozen scrambled, and put them away with no problem. If that place still existed, it would have warranted mention in your "Wonders of the World" in the Mohawk Valley adventure yarn. GS
- Now you got into my old stopping grounds!!!! You were only one block from where I went to the YMCA as a kid, all those years ago. The abutment Gert was standing on was where the old covered bridge went across the river. It was built in 1808-1809 and covered in 1822. It was torn down in 1873. You were also at the place where the old Waterford bridge crossed the Hudson. That was 4 spans, 800 Ft long. Built in 1804 by Theodore Burr and covered in 1812. it burned in 1909. I liked the story. I would go down to the river there in the old days to see the motor boat races. The cannon to start them was on the old abutment. Of course at that time, I did not know a covered bridge was there. DW
- Paul your doing a fine job and like me you must love our history as I do. Keep up the excellent work. TM
- Nice article. Loved the comment "Watch out for puddles" from the pre-schoolers. Sorry the gorge was empty - no waterfall. DG
- I had planned to sign on and quickly check mail but ended up spending an hour reading the latest addition and the various links. Thanks again for taking the trouble to invite us all along on your Discovery Trips. AM
As of October 27, 2001It's been awhile since I've updated the Reader's Comments section, however, the response to my recent "What was I thinking" experience, inspired me to resume updates.
- "For my next trick, I'd like to-----!" RK
- So how is the camera? BM (Camera okay)
- Nice mooooooove. BH
- Thanks for the good laugh. Too bad there was no one there to get a picture. Live and learn. RC
- Shocking !!! WL
- First, are you and the camera OK? Second, thanks for the laugh. GE
- Try landing a 10-inch brook trout across one of those babies. Had to regrease my fly reel after that. CS
- Oh, dear, oh, my, oh, goodness. I bet you said something more than "oooops."! I'm so sorry about that! Do you think the cow was chuckling over it all? MC
- I think we've all done something like that, especially me!!!! I'm used to it, I try to think ahead, but all you have to do is stop thinking for one second. Glad you're ok anyway. DG
- You never cease to amaze me. How do you look with your hair standing on end? MT (What hair?)
- What a shocking revelation! I've always admired your total honesty and humility. Just be thankful you weren't in a prone position on the other side of the fence! GS
- Great story. Glad to know I'm not the only one who does things like that. LP
- Ouch!!!!! I hit one of those accidentally while hunting -- I know they don't feel too good. JK
- So, did you get a good shot of the Middleville cow, or what? PR (Don't know yet)
- Boy it's hard to top that story! I only tore my pants when I climbed a fence to get a picture of a covered bridge and this bull did not like me in his field. In my haste, the pants ripped, but I saved the camera. DW
- Your electric fence caper gave us a good laugh and brought back a not-so-fond memory of a midnightmisadventure years back when I was young, foolish and more than a bit tipsy. Several of my friends and I were on our way home from the Remsen Field Days when I was overcome with a sudden urgency to relieve myself of the beers I had imbibed over several hours. Upon announcing my need to stop, all agreed and we piled out of the car and into the semi-darkened field. Proudly, I squeezed off a stream over the weeds, going for a new distance record. My reward was instant and painful. Some s.o.b. had installed an electric fence around his pasture with no concern for intoxicated athletes! Almost immediately, a scream of pain pierced the dark as one of my fellow competitors fell victim to the insidious wire. Anyway, I bet you're one up on the likes of Ansel Adams. If it's true that misery loves company, we share a stupid moment in time. JD
- I spent half a day looking for a "grass short" on a long line electric fence? Just couldn't find it - no power in that fence anywhere. I had forgotten I was wearing thick rubber barn boots. Oh well, as long as I'm out here I might as well take a leak. With relief in full flow against the offending fence I leaned on a nearby tree. ARRGGHHHHHH!. DH
- I just checked the website, and your "shocking story" should get some been-there-done-that grins from readers. BTW, I also read the Mohawk-Lansing Kill addition, which I hadn't before. New also? That old hayloader brought back memories - we had one "stored" in a small section of pasture on the farm. Never figured why my dad didn't break it down and sell it for junk. Memories I suspect. BM
- I always enjoy looking into your new additions. I don't always have enough time to do it right, but I know it takes an effort to put the page together, it's nice to read about getting out in the wilds. I did some of that yesterday. Been putting in long days and had some time to use up, so we spent part of the day in the mountains near Camp David, actually drove right by the entrance. The fall colors were very nice and the air cool and breezy. RS
- Thanks for the updates. I am in the process of doing some research on blacksmiths in the Mohawk Valley, specifically around Montgomery County. I have about five blacksmith account books that I am in the process of transcribing. The books date from 1812 - 1870. Any info you have come across on this subject I would be interested in knowing about. Sir William had several smiths he employed around the area. One Kasper Koch of Stone Arabia comes to mind. SM
- Good work. Glad to see you're back to your ol' self--top form, even. SR
- "Fascinating" is certainly the word to describe this very descriptive account of your (Palatines) latest trip. I was informed by a cousin of mine, who is into genealogy, that our ancestors did immigrate from Augsberg, Germany to Scotland and then to America in the 1600s. I wondered if it was religious persecution or if they were horse thieves. So I like the possibility (remote) that they were Palatines. Regarding th "How stupid can I be", I may have one to top it. A couple of hours ago some folks were sitting in the kitchen while I sliced potatoes and onions for scalloped potatoes using a mandolin type slicer. I turned to make some conversation and sliced off the whole of my right middle fingernail. Quickly left the room and wrapped up the by now profusely bleeding appendage, returned and, don't worry, retrieved the fingernail from the food. AM
- Read the Palatine stuff. Enjoyed it. Very good detail. Great photos. JP
- As always, I enjoyed your latest posted chapter. I wish you lived in my area; I'd love to read about the history of my Hudson Valley treated the way you have presented the Mohawk's history. GS
- Without a doubt, I'm going to have to take a course from you on web marketing. Excellent work motivating people to stay interested and tuned to your work. JB
- I grew up in Fort Plain and Nelliston, and we always called the stream which flows past thePalatine Church Garoga Creek. As a point of interest, the church is the opening scene--- at Fox's Mills ---in "Drums along the Mohawk." Keep up the good work. CG
As of July 29, 2001
I live in New Hampshire now, but used to live in Holland patent for 22 years. I have hiked to Trenton Falls many times and noticed a stone formation tucked in the woods on the Herkimer side of the river. Probably a hoax or recreation, it matches photos I have of Bronze Age stone dwellings in Ireland. I wondered if you knew when it was built and by whom. The project must have been difficult, as the stones involved are large.
Greg C.Greg, I believe it is the remains of a Lime Kiln. In the 1800s and early 1900s they used to burn limestone in these stone kilns to make lime for plaster. There was also one on the Oneida County side near Prospect, but I think it was removed when the water treatment plant was built.
As with every "chapter" I've read, "Exploring No Man's Land" was very enjoyable. You have the ability to mix so much of the interesting history and observances of nature with the fishing action and human interaction that the stories just flow, like the river you are exploring.
Glenn S.Glenn, coming from someone with your writing and editing credentials, your kind words mean a great deal.
I am also very interested in the Mohawk Valley History. I helped with the Town of Deerfield's 200th ann. book. I just went to General Herkimer's Home and took Video's and snap shots. I also went to Rome and Westernville and took pictures of William Floyd's grave (one of the signers of the Declaration Of Independence) and Francis Bellamy's grave, the author of the Pledge Of Allegiance. I have the video and pictures if you are interested.
Tom S.Tom, I share your enthusiasm for the history of the Mohawk Valley. Unless it's something really unusual I use my own photographs for slide programs, web site or books. However, I appreciate the offer.
I can't click on the link you provide with your Heads Up email notices. It is not underlined. I have to highlight the address, copy and paste it in the address line and then hit return. I already have your address in my "favorites".
Melody TMelody, I can't figure out why the links don't come to you underlined and ready to use. Some readers get them correctly one time and not the next. Let me know if the links in my Heads Up Notices are not underlined, and I'll try and try again.
Thanks for taking the time to try to solve the problem regarding the links in your Heads Up Notices.
Dick AI read about your book in progress in the Little Falls Evening Times online version. Please send updates as they occur. My wife and I are from Dolgeville but haven't lived there since the early 70's.
Bill K., Richmond, VAI think what you are doing is great and you seem to have fun doing it. I would like you to send me updates on your journey. My father (Dale Janes) really enjoys what you are doing.
Jacy J.Please include me on your EMail listings of progress on your writing. My wife and I now live in Fredericksburg, VA but were lifelong residents of the Mohawk Valley and the North Country of NYS. Thank you so much for the nostalgia we feel when reading your work.
Michael and Christobel S.
As Of June 10, 2001
I just finished checking out the latest installment and was really impressed and surprised at the amount and variety of wildlife the you and Ron found so close to the city. Did you get a new camera? Those photos of the birds looked better than previous photos.
Dale J.Dale, the bird photos were taken with a camera and zoom lens I use for slides. Most of the photos taken for this website are taken with a point and shoot 35 mm camera loaded with print film. Then I scan them at low resolution so they load quickly with the web pages. Very few of these low resolution photos look as good as the original photographs, but they help to illustrate the articles. I also have a slide scanner, but again the low resolution scan required for the web does not do them justice. You'll have to see one of my slide programs to really appreciate those photographs. Incidentally, I haven't decided on what kind of digital camera to buy.
Great reading. Makes you want to see it for ourself. Keep up the good work!
Lynne P.I had fun looking at the maps of Utica. Thanks for the great site. Hope the
book is progressing well.
Lou P.MapTech is a wonderful resource to know about. Thanks for telling us about it.
Susan P.This map site is super, a metal detectorist dream, thank you and thank those who are allowing this site free.
Tom M.Keep writin' so I can keep readin'.
MelodyI have been in the pot holes on Moss Island several times over the years. There is also some interesting flora on the island, too. That area is full of beauty and geological formations. Across from Moss Island, across the valley, is a very popular cliff that rock climbers have tackled for many years. And I believe that that cliff also is rich in quartz crystals. Little Falls is a paradise for youngsters. I spent many summers there back in the 30s and 40s
Frank S.The day I got your headsup e-mail I went to your web page and I don't mind telling you, when I was finished, I had tears running down my cheeks!! I copied off the part about Doolie and sent it my daughter by e-mail. She has a golden retriever also. She printed it out and took it to school and she had all the other teachers crying!! Sorry to hear about Doolie. When are you going to get a new one?
Dick W.Dick, I received dozens of special messages about Good Bye Old Friend. Most of them noted the article about Doolie brought them to tears. Yours is the only one that shared those tears with so many people. Thanks to you and all those who know how it feels to lose a special dog.
As Of May 20, 2001I loved the latest additions to the Book-in-Progress. The photos add a lot. I sure wish I had just some of the energy and motivation that you seem to have. Well keep up the good work and take care.
Dale J.I never get enough of your research and adventures. I really enjoyed your adventure with Bridget, sounded like you had a ball that day. Keep up the good work but take care of yourself, remember you're not a kid anymore.
Millie R.Keep your adventures coming. The Lost River section reminds me of Alice going through the Looking glass.
Jane D.I'm still reading everything you send, and enjoying it all. Sometimes your photos are "suitable for framing."
Pat R.I am, indeed enjoying your writing, your adventures, and the website. Look forward to the book!
Anita M.Thanks for the information. I, for one, am extremely interested in following your book. The nice thing about having it online is that one can view it at will---any hour of the day or night.
Charley W.Tonight I had the chance to read a good portion of what you have posted...excellent....excellent...everything from the reading to the pictures....
Jack M
As of May 6, 2001Have been enjoying your writing. Keep going, my friend. You are a local treasure. As for the source of the Mohawk, I recall doing a column (Utica OD) about this many years ago. I got the idea from reading a 1940s or 1950s National Geographic article, which I found at a garage sale or something. Anyway, what I did was to go back and retrace the steps of the National Geographic writer and I talked with the family of the people featured in the article and one of them - or maybe it was a family friend - took me to the spring which is the source of the Mohawk.
Joe KYou have quite a nice website. In your research, have you found a book in the "Rivers of America" series about the Mohawk? They did books in this series for the Hudson and Genesee.
John RJohn, Yes, I have that book.
I did take a look and learned a few things. I recall a few trips where I put my kayak in several miles below East Canada Creek and paddled upstream to the confluence and then upstream on East Canada as far as I could go, ferrying from Eddy to Eddy and dragging over some drops. If you are ever in need of company on a trip, give me a shout
Dave P.I'm glad that you didn't find the easiest route to the top of Big Nose. That way you created your own adventure and just think of all the cool things you may have missed had you took the easy way! Keep up the great adventures!!
Tera CI love that kind of hiking, pick a target and go, skip the trails. And we do that during winter or early spring for the same reasons you do. It neat to get out and not come across anybody. I too have noticed traces of old farms on tops of mountains in our area. I wonder why they picked such rocky places when land was still plentiful in the valleys? Maybe they just liked the isolation.
Ray S.Ray, In many areas the bottomlands were too wet to farm, and those highlands that are rocky now were once covered with rich soil that had formed under primeval forests. Eventually the hilltop rich soils washed away and farmers (in the early to mid 1800s) learned how to drain those bottomlands with drain tiles and rock filled ditches.
Thanks for letting us explore the mountains with you.
Nancy K.I found this latest most interesting, I envy you walking the unknown woods kicking up ducks and watching wildlife away from the noise of the suburbs, sounds very tranquil. I can appreciate the snow you mention. We went on the dead deer survey with Region 6 wildlife biologists, We hiked in the woods in the High Market area; they were primitive and peaceful; saw no live wildlife only dead deer. Our group counted 13, the three groups of sportsmen and biologists counted 38. In places I was up to my butt in snow, other places where the sun penetrated was bare ground. Hope you find your beginning.
Doug FNature hikes are just not like baseball. It is just nice to get "out".
Giff M.Good luck. Here's hoping you don't strike out this time.
Lynne P.
As of April 29, 2001
I have enjoyed learning about this great area of ours. Would it be ok to forward (information about the web site) to a buddy that has a camp up at White Lake and lives on Long Island?
Joan B.Joan, By all means, please pass this information to friends.
I cannot wait to read this book!
Lou P.
My research (1790s) indicates that the processing and shipment of ashes and potash was there right from the first settlement. Pioneers sold the ashes to small scale asheries for cash which paid for the cost of clearing their farms. Ashes were being shipped to Europe from central New York by boat in this period, when most of the settlements of the area began. This was probably true from the 1780s on.
Later, in the early 19th century, as the scope of settlement in the far west expanded, an "industry" of potash grew up, but by then the distance and cost to market had already began to undermine profitability.
Phil L.Phil, Right you are. I did the research on this subject for the KUYAHOORA book, and most of this area was settled in the 1780s.
That's alot of ash! How I wish we could at least glimpse the virginal forests the way they were back then.
Lynne P.I read it all. Every bit. I love the installments, and your enthusiasm in the search for something.....else. I hope this book never ends.
Pat RI was into your readers comments section, but found no place to add a message. So I would like you to elaborate on limestone and why it was cooked in kilns, and the uses for same. Thank you.
Tom M.Tom, Thanks I added a link to my email at the beginning and end of this section.
I noted the following comment on your website: "One section of the Mohawk River I haven't explored between its source and Frankfort --- a distance of some 65 miles --- is the 3-mile stretch from West Leyden to East Ava Road. I plan to walk it this spring."
Just thought I would clue you in that our snow has finally melted, for the most part, so you should be able to walk that by now. I'm following your additions to the site with great interest.
Anita M.Anita, Thank you. I'll be up there this week.
As of April 23, 2001
Hi Paul, I read them all & appreciate receiving them. It seems I learn something new each time. Thanx a lot.
Giff M.Seeing what you've been up to, in all sorts of weather, kinda gives me a rosy outlook for my retirement years. Keep up the good work, it's entertaining!
Joe H.Very nice. I really enjoyed the helicopter story. I've done a lot of flying in helicopters, some Bell Jet Rangers, some bigger Navy helicopters.
Ray S.Yes, I have been reading your updates and thoroughly enjoying them. Your website is very slick and easy to browse, keep up the great work....!
Denny G.I can relate to the turtle incident, my son Dan and I were fishing bass one fine day from a 17' aluminum canoe. I thought I had a good sized bass on, when I got it to surface it was that creature and he was actually roaring. I cut the line.
Tom M.Keep up your fine work. Good stuff. You just keep getting better and better!
Spider R.The Bird's Eye View is good. Great pictures. I especially like the Little Falls shot.
Jane D.Most enjoyable reading. Thanks. Good photo. Two heads are better than one, I agree, but doesn't that double the food intake ?
Bev P.I'm enjoying your work. Good reading. Thanks for sending it to me.
Joe K.It's a relaxing adventure I can share with you when I sit down after school to get some of the 'required' work done. But, would you get the book done sooner if you were not spending time sharing all your information?
Brian D.Love the picture of the two-headed cow. The helicopter trip sounded great too. I have been reading the updates, however I have to admit - I haven't had much time lately to really enjoy and read through at a slower more comprehensive pace. I have just skimmed over. Love what you write though.
Denise G.Just letting you know that I always check out your latest additions to the book & enjoy the comments. Sounds like fun.
Leo M.Checked out the Book In Progress. Neat - and a nice picture of the confluence of Schoharie Creek and the Mohawk River. Some day you might want to check out the small museum at Auriesville Shrine.
Ron K.You have quite an undertaking planned for this summer. Hope you get to start soon.
Lynne P.Thanks for the great story about the Lost River! It sounds like it was quite the adventure with some close calls. Especially the snapping turtle! Can't wait to hear about future adventures and outings especially now that the weather is finally getting a little warmer up there! Until then happy adventures to you!
Tera C.The mis-placed section of the Mohawk sounded like a great adventure. Keep up the good work,
Bud M.Paul thanks for sharing the MOHAWK VALLEY with me. Most of what I read was new to me.
Powsie W.